Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

A place to talk about different ideas and concepts surrounding web crafting and web surfing.

Moderator: Onio

Post Reply
User avatar
Onio
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 23, 2026 10:48 pm
Contact:

Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

Post by Onio »

I was working on a video script about the 2009 Macbook I picked up and why I’m enjoying using it to surf the personal web, despite it being pretty slow and sometimes really struggles running some of the heavier javascript websites. It took me a while to put some words to my feelings, but I think I have it:

When the hardware and operating systems we use don’t recede from our awareness while using them, they become a part of the aesthetic experience of whatever we’re using them for.

A lot of hardware is design to serve content and get out of the way as much as possible, to fade out of our awareness while using them, so we can immerse ourselves into the video, the movie, the video game, the book, whatever media we’re engaged with. Movie theatres are classic examples of this - the lights dim down so that everything is in darkness except for the movie itself, and the hardware that’s serving it is never seen. Virtual reality goggles are peak examples of this, where ideally, after you’ve put them on, the only thing you should notice is the virtual world you’ve become completely engaged with.

A small old laptop, with its low resolution display, slower refresh rate, slower hardware, and quite often with appealing design quirks that call for your attention, never quite get out of the way, I’ve noticed it doesn’t really recede from my awareness while I’m using it. Of course, when it comes to things like movies, this could be a detractor from the experience, but in certain cases, I feel like certain old laptops actually compliment or enhance the aesthetic experience.

The latter is what I’ve noticed with browsing the indie web and even making this forum post on the 2009 plastic macbook, while using Mavericks OS X and chilling with the classic Windows Vista background image: the aesthetic experience of the indie web seems to improve with the use of this MacBook in certain ways. Now I wouldn’t delegate all of my indie web time to this machine, there are websites I’d like to be able to access, there are times I’d prefer typing to be a little bit snappier, there are times I’d like to be able to have multiple tabs open. But for casual browsing, where I want to slow down and appreciate a website as a piece of media, it can really look beautiful and the vibes between the website and the macbook seem to match. If the indie web is slow, the pace of this laptop matches. If the indie web stylization leans more vintage/retro, the style of this laptop matches it. If personal websites are meant to be customized to the heart’s content, I’m not afraid of drawing or sticker bombing the body of this $10 macbook because it’s a $10 macbook! I can treat it like an art project as much as I can treat it like a tool. If personal web feels small and cozy, this small quaint laptop suits it. And if I want to eliminate a little temptation to open 30 tabs and jump from one website to the next quickly, there’s some friction doing so on a laptop like this - I’m pushed to take things one page at a time and enjoy whatever webpage is currently on the screen.

In a world where most devices feel like they’re portals to be sucked into, personal sites really seem to feel at home on small, old laptops, and the web almost feels like it comes outward into the physical world dressed in the form of this machine.

Just some thoughts! I enjoyed writing this, maybe in part because of the machine I was writing it on :ugeek:
User avatar
Onio
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 23, 2026 10:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

Post by Onio »

For those of you curious about how this might look in a coffee shop, btw..
Image
:mrgreen:
User avatar
Pleco
Posts: 7
Joined: Sun May 31, 2026 1:52 am

Re: Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

Post by Pleco »

I absolutely agree with your point about the aesthetics of old computers the indie web complimenting each other. On the flip side, I find the visual clash between modern corporate web design and old OSes also drives me to the indie web when using one.

My portal to the indie web is my 2011 MacBook Pro with maxed out RAM and an SSD. Those upgrades allow it to handle large sites like Facebook and YouTube, albeit with some struggle here and there. However, because the flat design of those sites looks out of place on Snow Leopard, I end up closing out of them pretty quickly and go back to browsing the indie web.

I also appreciate how most indie sites play nicely with older hardware. They give purpose to what's essentially ewaste and I find that really satisfying.
User avatar
Onio
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 23, 2026 10:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

Post by Onio »

Pleco wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2026 2:41 am I absolutely agree with your point about the aesthetics of old computers the indie web complimenting each other. On the flip side, I find the visual clash between modern corporate web design and old OSes also drives me to the indie web when using one.

My portal to the indie web is my 2011 MacBook Pro with maxed out RAM and an SSD. Those upgrades allow it to handle large sites like Facebook and YouTube, albeit with some struggle here and there. However, because the flat design of those sites looks out of place on Snow Leopard, I end up closing out of them pretty quickly and go back to browsing the indie web.

I also appreciate how most indie sites play nicely with older hardware. They give purpose to what's essentially ewaste and I find that really satisfying.
Giving purpose to old ewaste is such a huge pro of a project like this, I also find it really satisfying.

Speaking of those old MacBook Pros, I've wanted one of those pre-retina MacBook Pros with all the lights and ports since my friend had one in 2011-2012! I genuinely find them more attractive looking that newer, thinner designs with minimized ports. Such lovely designs, I think a 13" pro non-retina will be on my list for a long time to come, though I think I might go mad if I adopt any more laptops soon, so I'll have to sell some of the devices I do have before I adopt anything again. I need to finish out the video projects I have focused on the machines I have already, and then sell some of them - it's driving me a little nuts having too many machines around me right now :lol: I want everything to have a purpose. I feel torn toward being a collector and minimizing my worldly belongings.

Regarding what you said about visual clashes between an OS and web design, it's true! After reading what you had to say about that, I'm here on the X220, and I really prefer older OS X visually over stock KDE Plasma for writing here on the forum, even though I really enjoy the X220's hardware.
User avatar
Pleco
Posts: 7
Joined: Sun May 31, 2026 1:52 am

Re: Hardware as a part of the Indie Web experience

Post by Pleco »

Onio wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2026 2:22 pm Giving purpose to old ewaste is such a huge pro of a project like this, I also find it really satisfying.

Speaking of those old MacBook Pros, I've wanted one of those pre-retina MacBook Pros with all the lights and ports since my friend had one in 2011-2012! I genuinely find them more attractive looking that newer, thinner designs with minimized ports. Such lovely designs, I think a 13" pro non-retina will be on my list for a long time to come, though I think I might go mad if I adopt any more laptops soon, so I'll have to sell some of the devices I do have before I adopt anything again. I need to finish out the video projects I have focused on the machines I have already, and then sell some of them - it's driving me a little nuts having too many machines around me right now :lol: I want everything to have a purpose. I feel torn toward being a collector and minimizing my worldly belongings.

Regarding what you said about visual clashes between an OS and web design, it's true! After reading what you had to say about that, I'm here on the X220, and I really prefer older OS X visually over stock KDE Plasma for writing here on the forum, even though I really enjoy the X220's hardware.
Oh man, I know your pain when it comes to having too many computers. I have a desktop, a Steam Deck, and 4 laptops. They all have uses (aside from my 2008 MacBook), but it still feels like too much.

If you're after a more appropriate KDE theme for your X220, there's a few Aero-inspired themes worth trying. I personally use a combination of Curved Volatile and Se7en Aero on my desktop.
Post Reply